Gun Review: Going the Distance with the Kimber Rapide Black Ice 10mm. Rare events committed by rare people. istan and declared victory but I don't think anybody would have wanted to. Read it again. Copies or duplicates of banned assault rifles, including copies of the Colt AR-15 and the Kalishnikov AK-47, are prohibited by the Massachusetts assault weapons ban. SPRINGFIELD, Mass. In other words when organized as a militia. Technically that wasn't in the home, so the needle is very narrow indeed. Lastly, I'm pretty sure our AWB is not even close to the only reason we haven't had a mass shooting around here that I can recall. With lawmakers in Massachusetts now under a ticking clock to recast the Commonwealth’s electronic weapon laws, Senate President Harriette Chandler and House Speaker Robert DeLeo are both reportedly working on legislative fixes. But they didn't. The attempt at analogy by tying Freedom of Speech to typewriters fails. The Supreme Judicial Court on Tuesday found the state’s total ban on civilian possession of a stun gun violates the Second Amendment. Among natural rights there is a right of self-defense. As for electronic locks...that's science fiction. Gould, 907 F.3d at 673. If the Amendment was to declare that owning guns is a right then it would have been written and ratified with those words. to hunt, shoot skeet, and shoot targets; but the article is about the badly defined "assault weapon", which is generally understood to be designed for "assault". Judge Benitez in California specifically overturned California's magazine capacity limits citing specifically their use in home defense scenarios. I'm from Philadelphia. The fact that Supreme Court judges use poor reasoning and bigotry to base the decisions, and that some of them are men who practice sexual harassment of women, and who exempt themselves from basic laws, anything they declare has to be taken with a ton of salt. They are written down. A gun-rights group in San Diego sued Thursday to block California from enforcing its assault weapons ban, citing an earlier court victory that overturned the state’s ban … At issue was Healey's determination that the law let her extend the ban to weapons that were not explicitly mentioned in a state list of forbidden weapons but which her office had determined were basically copies of weapons on the list. The appeals court noted, more than once, the state law does not ban all semiautomatic assault weapons and that the ones it does ban " do not share the features that make handguns well-suited to self-defense in the home," such as being easily accessible or even able to be used with one hand by a homeowner who is dialing the police with another. Hand guns were invented with the intention of killing people. (WWLP) – Assault weapons have been banned in Massachusetts for nearly 20-years, but Attorney General Maura Healey said, that hasn’t stopped the sale of copy-cat assault … The record contains ample evidence of the unique dangers posed by the proscribed weapons. That would include a variety of regulations to prevent the many accidental deaths due to fire arms. ANY firearm can be used to commit mass murder. You have to prove you're not dangerous, and then you get your "I am a responsible citizen" card that lets you buy...well it should let you buy anything, but it doesn't, and that's where I don't like Mass gun laws. We can argue that the Commonwealth government has the right to protect its citizens when the federal government abandons protection of the citizenry. Viewed as a whole, the record suggests that wielding the proscribed weapons for self-defense within the home is tantamount to using a sledgehammer to crack open the shell of a peanut. The court contrasted such heavy weaponry with lightweight stun guns, which Massachusetts also tried to ban but which the Supreme Court said were allowed by the Second Amendment. Had he still been alive, he would probably have advocated the same for Afghanistan. Healey decided that anything with any part interchangeable with any AR-15 is illegal, but the Mini-14 isn't illegal. But that would include mandatory training with a certification. Nevertheless thank you for providing examples of how much supporters of the false interpretation of the 2nd Amendment will twist and turn to deny that the 2nd Amendment is not about a right for individuals to own guns JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT to own them. By the way, how do you define idiot? Learn about the history of human rights. Well, here's a problem. The solution advanced by the court: delay the lifting of the ban by 60 days to allow legislators to craft a law that would balance the right to keep and bear arms with public safety. Possessing those tools support conviction of a burglary. Both are devices that ostensibly serve purposes. Reread the 2nd Amendment. The U.S Supreme Court Monday wiped out a Massachusetts court ruling that had upheld the conviction of a Massachusetts woman who carried a stun … Holding a 9mm sideways is retarded foolish, The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Safety is and always has between the ears. Keeping and bearing those arms is amenable to change over time. And "smart guns" are real. And for all of the non-gun owners on here. If they wanted the 2nd Amendment to mean that each person has a right to own firearms that is what they would have written. Photo courtesy of Wikimedia Commons. In fact, when asked directly, not one of the plaintiffs or their six experts could identify even a single example of the use of an assault weapon for home self-defense, nor could they identify even a single example of a self-defense episode in which ten or more shots were fired. Or the state legislature can clarify what it means by 'copies or duplicates' and thread an even narrower needle since any semiautomatic rifle (of which there are many) can be modified to have enough banned features to be illegal under the two-feature test in the 1994 federal AWB and the 1998 Massachusetts AWB. Do you really believe Kavanaugh was hosting rape parties as a kid or are you just unconsciously repeating a meme? In logical theory it doesn't make sense you are right. Because what is to stop her from taking away the 10 round cap next, and so on. In Sutherland Springs, Texas, the shooter was confronted by a dude who had his own AR. A gun can be easily equipped with electronics that prevent shooting it. The authors of the Constitution couldn't even fathom electricity let alone what "arms" might entail these days. You can add a lot of things before "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.". If the Amendment was to declare that owning guns is a right then it would have been written and ratified with those words. But then if you're too dangerous to be trusted with an AR...why would we trust you with a Mini 14, or a Glock, or a Beretta Storm, or for that matter...why the hell would we not lock you up for our own safety? Sledge hammers are designed to pulverize whatever they hit. Virginia Tech was attacked by one man with one handgun and 50 rounds of ammo he bought that morning. One day you may notice that the amendment begins by referring to a Militia. They seem to have officers, a code of conduct, and rules of engagement. Look at the attack of a synagogue today. The first clause merely explains the reasoning for the second. If you expand the scope to beyond Massachusetts, you probably would find more instances of AR15s being used for self defense and home defense. 1)"a bunch of nobodies with AK-47s" only tied down the world's only superpower because said superpower didn't want to win the war on the terms that it was winnable. Litigation is pending in Hawaii and New York. The Massachusetts Assault Weapons Ban does prohibit the sale of certain semi-automatic pistols, including the INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and the Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil. How would I define an idiot? (you could argue a hunting or boning knife is designed to cut flesh but that's not what you wrote). Massachusetts court overturns state stun gun ban The Supreme Judicial Court on Tuesday found the state’s total ban on civilian possession of a stun gun violates the Second Amendment. The sad thing is that I figure most folks would agree that having a fire arm in their home is okay when the intention is self-defense. I recently had the good fortune to receive a new ammunition line from CCI called Clean-22. Only these weapons and copies or duplicates of these specific pistols are prohibited under the ban, and none appear on the approved list. Look. It is, therefore, not surprising that AR-15s equipped with LCMs have been the weapons of choice in many of the deadliest mass shootings in recent history, including horrific events in Pittsburgh (2018), Parkland (2018), Las Vegas (2017), Sutherland Springs (2017), Orlando (2016), Newtown (2012), and Aurora (2012). But it is pretty clear that most of the recent random shootings were done by a specific type of firearm. Again...for the sake of the rule of law...this shouldn't age well. Most crimes and homicides are committed with pistols. Ban idiots from getting guns. If the state were to try to ban pistols under the same reasoning, it would run afoul of the 'not used for self defense' smell test in this ruling. When she announced that, she promptly got sued by a group of gun manufacturers and owners. Cars and trucks exist primarily for the purpose of transportation. You can kill people in a lot of ways. Swiss cheese has fewer holes than this decision. Don't extrapolate that to a fallacious belief in the inevitable victory of the citizen-soldier; this is real life, not a Heinlein novel. “Unless and until the Legislature were to act to replace § 131J [the current stun gun law] with a revised version that would pass muster under the Second Amendment, facial invalidation of § 131J would mean that there would be no law in place preventing stun guns from being sold to or possessed by violent felons, persons convicted of domestic violence, convicted drug dealers, children, or the mentally ill,” Gants said for the court. I think that makes clear where you are coming from. The offering is another quality product from CCI, who already create some of the best .22 LR ammo around. Otherwise playing games with words just creates lies. But I bet you'd be something other than a paragon of cool if youd just been accused of hosting rape parties when you were in high school. Knifes are designed to cut ... vegetables, wire, rope, etc. The idea of rights itself is relatively new in the history of human beings. The Supreme Judicial Court on Tuesday found the state’s total ban on civilian possession of a stun gun violates the Second Amendment. We founding fathers hate guns so very much and think they should all be thrown into some nerd pit forever like the Sarlac Pit or the Mordor volcano or something and everyone should have a picture of Don Knotts as Barney Fife in their house to remember how foolish gun possesion is, The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. I assure you that the founders had not forgotten Lexington and Concord -- where their revolution started when the British army came for their guns. In Massachusetts in particular, Collins' bill would lift the state ban on many types of assault weapons and large-capacity gun magazines. Rule of law does not mean rule by majority or rule by consensus in the moment; it means rule by majority and consensus over time. They might be easy to overcome but at least they can prevent accidental maiming and deaths when children get hold a gun. That's the point. Arms has a broad definition that's amenable to change over time. She was supposed to have also been "credible". I do not see where I claimed victory was inevitable for citizen soldiers. Where law is concerned it matters to be precise. It's the murdering that's illegal, not any tool that might facilitate the crime. Or maybe you're not. If you don't the Constitution then, oh well, it is what we are stuck with. In other words just as cars can be regulated so can guns. Your defense of Kavanaugh's drunken and belligerent behavior fails. Read the history of human rights. And if we define arms in the context of militia, nukes aren't arms. LCMs [large-capacity magazines] exacerbate this danger, allowing the shooter to fire more bullets without stopping to reload. People think nothing of trying to settle arguments with violence Nor does it circumscribe in any way the fundamental right of law-abiding, responsible citizens to possess handguns in their homes for self-defense. 2. They fail because knives, fire, etc. 3. Semiautomatic assault weapons permit a shooter to fire multiple rounds very quickly, allowing him to hit more victims in a shorter period of time. That can be interpreted as not infringing. And just the nature of a semi automatic long gun like an AR-15 will tell you that banning it would reduce the number of victims in these random killings. I'm more worried about federal courts deciding that flimsy "intermediate scrutiny" is appropriate for a core natural right identified in the Bill of Rights rather than "strict scrutiny" which has traditionally been applied. Try to keep up. Since Massachusetts indubitably "has compelling governmental interests in both public safety and crime prevention," id., the only question that remains is whether the Act is substantially related to those interests. BOSTON — The Massachusetts Supreme Court on Tuesday overturned the state’s ban on private ownership of stun guns, ruling they are protected under the Second Amendment’s right to bear arms. Then there are accidents, suicides, domestic violence incidents, robberies gone wrong, and innocent bystanders. I'm guessing here, but most victims of handgun violence in this state are criminals themselves who wouldn't have been shot if they simply weren't criminals (empirical evidence only there). Adam, why don't you research how many gun murders in MA or nationally are committed with "assault weapons" vs handguns. This case concerns an issue of paramount importance. We spent six months and turned the corner of the recommend break-in round count on the striking Kimber Rapide Black Ice in 10mm Auto and have some things to report. McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742, is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States that found that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms," as protected under the Second Amendment, is incorporated by either the Due Process Clause or Privileges or Immunities Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and is thereby enforceable against the states. The Cato Institute recently filed an amicus brief in support of a U.S. Supreme Court petition against an unconstitutional Massachusetts firearms ban. Your ad hominem attack of me is quantitatively different from my references to Trump, McConnell and Scalia. Scalia lied. Smart guns exist. It comes just two days after a federal judge in Boston declined to overturn a man's gun conviction despite his arguments he had a Second Amendment right to own a gun without a state license - and the ruling upholds a federal judge's decision last year to uphold the Massachusetts list of weaponry that is banned for sale here. That could meet society's acceptable definition of keeping and bearing arms. If you have a right to peaceable assembly but any assembly is ruled unpeaceacle since it has a small probability of breaking out into a riot, you have no right. It's still a fool's errand. Don't know. Your rights are not circumscribed by the 1st Amendment or the 2nd or any of them. Yet Healey specifically said it's legal in her enforcement notice. They have bad aim. This looks like a case of a judge looking for reasons to come to a preferred conclusion. The Supreme Judicial Court on Tuesday found the state’s total ban on civilian possession of a stun gun violates the Second Amendment. The Supreme Judicial Court on Tuesday found the state’s total ban on civilian possession of a stun gun violates the Second Amendment. Lowell's own General Curtis LeMay said of Vietnam, "Nuke 'em back to the stone age." 2)This ain't "well-regulated" by any definition. So while he could have just walked into a store and bought a pistol, he would have had more hoops to jump through to obtain an AR15. Guns are designed to propel a small projectile at a high speed. "Well-regulated" here means nothing more than orderly. Conflating anything that can kill a person with an object designed to kill is disengenuous. Trouble is you don't seem to agree with yourself... As I've stated before, I'm all for universal mandatory firearms training. To play the game of word substitution is disingenuous to the point of lying. If you choose to direct any of these tools to the task of harming your fellow man, then you are thr one who has committed an offense. I think that you realize that the first phrase of the statement is, "A well regulated militia..." But because it is inconvenient to the ideology and emotional need of owing guns you pretend that it is irrelevant. Not sure about any other kind of semiautomatic rifle. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Using the term ghetto - as it has come to mean today - indicates a belief that inhabitants of a ghetto are subhuman (that is what NAZIs and Italians believed concerning Jews). Massachusetts court overturns state stun gun ban :: 04/18/2018. They didn't. Gasoline, ethanol, kerosene are made to burn hot. As we have said, the Act does not outlaw all semiautomatic firearms and magazines. Trump is obviously a man who believes that chaos, lies, disruption and pain for others is how he wants the world to spin. BOSTON -- The Massachusetts Supreme Court Tuesday overturned the state’s ban on private ownership of stun guns, ruling they are protected under the Second Amendment’s right to bear arms. The 10-year ban was passed by the US Congress on September 13, 1994, following a close 52–48 vote in the US Senate, and was signed into law by US President Bill Clinton on the same day. It comes just two days after a federal judge in Boston declined to overturn a man's gun conviction despite his arguments he had a Second Amendment right to own a gun without a state license - and the ruling upholds a federal judge's decision last year to uphold the Massachusetts list of weaponry that is banned … We "infringe" on that right every day. The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. Anyone who likes Trump is either evil a fool or evil themself. Constitution believed that each person has an outright right to own guns they would have written that. So Healy banning a certain rifle for the way it "looks" is rediculous, when other rifles and pistols hold the same amount of rounds. Some states includes a direct expression of that idea. Get Guns.com offers and news, Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 ©2019 Guns.com. SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A California state appeals court on Wednesday struck down a ban on the private ownership of handguns in San Francisco, one of … Today that might also include electronics that make use of a weapon dependent on entering a passcode. If I'm crazy enough to try to kill people for no reason at all, and if I don't expect anyone to be shooting back, is there a reason for me to have second thoughts because all I've got is a Glock with a 10 round magazine? I will accept responsibility for my own misbehavior. If unregulated ownership of guns was a natural right then that would have been included in the 1st Amendment. Zebras make great guard pets, The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. There is a category of objects called burglarious tools. The decision, by the Court of Appeals for the First Circut in Boston, once again drives home the point that the Second Amendment does not grant an absolute right to own any sort of gun whatsoever. The sort of order that comes from regular practice at arms, individually, and corporately, as citizens did at the time. In referencing the 10the you must agree that the Commonwealth has rights reserved to it. Guns exist to maim and kill. In other words, "A well regulated Militia....". Interestingly, in Virginia you need a special kind of license of possess a scary black rifle. People fighting he in court have every right to do so, and a good reason. So the ruling claims that because the state has an overriding interest in preventing violence (agreed), AND proscribed assault weapons can be used to commit crimes (true, but with a big caveat), AND the plaintiffs could not name a single instance of AR-15 being used for home defense (read on), then it's OK to ban that subset of weapons. The ban applied only to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment. Maybe you're drunk. If nothing else, those wouldn't be issued to a militiaman for reason of weight alone. The Constitution is a set of definable guidelines, not a suicide pact. He is an emotional sadist; he is evil. Do you mean Jewish ghettos of black ghettos? But the national Constitution clearly and specifically makes ownership of guns subordinate to a "well regulated Militia.". Yup. 1. You may not like them, or disagree with them about politics, but it doesn't mean they aren't well-regulated. The cap limit in MA is 10 for pistols / rifles - and has been. What amazes me is that on a day when easy access to guns results in another attempt at mass murder in a religious location there is still support of easy gun ownership. OK, but since they were unanimous on ending bans on non-lethal gun and 100% consistent on allowing lethal-gun bans to stand at every level, does this mean they are now willing to accept the concept of "we can ban deadly guns because other (non-lethal) means of self defense are available to the citizens"? An appeals court Friday upheld a decision to throw out a legal challenge to But the ownership of guns was not equated to self-defense. The 1st Amendment declares that there are fundamental natural rights. If I have no valid reason to suspect other people of having criminal intent, I will not accept responsibility for my interactions with those people. I know what they're thinking. If the writers of the Constitution believed that each person has an outright right to own guns they would have written that. Gasoline, ethanol, kerosene are made to burn hot. It's up to all of us and what we're willing accept as to the point of our guidelines. And it means including the original meaning of those rules, not the fad interpretation of the moment. 3. Accordingly, we hold that although the Act may well "touch[] the right to keep and bear arms," Miller, 307 U.S. at 182, it does not impermissibly intrude upon that right because it withstands intermediate scrutiny. For the purpose of firearms licensing, the Massachusetts standard is a pretty good one: have two law-abiding citizens vouch for your good character, have no history of violent or threatening behavior, and demonstrate proficiency at safe handling and marksmanship. Even so, we recognize that such interests must be balanced against the time-honored right of individuals to bear arms in self-defense — a right that is protected in varying degrees by the Second Amendment. If you like him then please say so. The Constitution has been modified with an Amendment and then modified again to revoke that Amendment. Read it everyday. In its opinion, the appeals court said the ban, which Attorney General Maura Healey moved to widen in 2016, is acceptable under the Supreme Court's Heller decision, which explicitly stated for the first time that Americans have the right to own guns, but which also said states could place reasonable restrictions on them: The Court added that the Second Amendment does not confer "a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.". In the wake of increasingly frequent acts of mass violence committed with semiautomatic assault weapons and LCMs, the interests of state and local governments in regulating the possession and use of such weapons are entitled to great weight. You probably know as well as I do how hard it can be to shoot a moving target (or even someone at close range) with a handgun. The Declaration states the we each have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Guns are designed to propel a small projectile at a high speed. Gun manufacturer Smith & Wesson has donated $500,000 to the US’s largest gun industry trade body to help its fightback against the Massachusetts attorney general’s ban on … They drill regularly, and can apparently hit what they're aiming at. People are using large-capcity, semi-automatic weapons to commit mass murders, not protect themselves at home, a federal appeals court said yesterday, upholding the way Massachusetts bans the sale of certain assault weapons. Not the person who made the instrument in question. You have the right to self defense and to property by virtue of sucking down oxygen, not because those rights are enumerated in a list somewhere. We could write laws that say you have to pass numerous checks, store your weapon at a highly qualified gun range run by the state in a secured vault, only be able to purchase ammunition at that gun range and can't leave the grounds with it, and otherwise not own a gun. Children getting hold of a gun? Even Scalia, whose interpretation was biased by his own emotionally violent nature, could not completely stop from stating the truth and agreed that this so-called right was still subject to regulation. If you can come up with instances of self defense or home defense involving AR15s and/or more-than-ten-round magazines (like the ruling making it's way through west coast federal courts right now), then you've turned this ruling on its head. Guns are icky, The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Sledge hammers are designed to pulverize whatever they hit. Why it's Roman moving the goalposts again! Once you pass that smell test...it should all be wide open. Safety and protection will truly be put ahead of the pleasure and lust for owning devices that exist only to kill. Ramirez, a passenger in the vehicle, was found to have a stun gun in his pants pocket, which lead in part to his arrest and a charge for violating the Commonwealth’s electrical weapon laws. The Mini-14 is capable of inflicting the same damage by virtue of firing the same bullet through the same length barrel. Whether your right is actually being infringed upon is amenable to change over time. Right now, zero private citizens who "apply for a permit for a new AR-15" in Massachusetts can get one. It is hard to study the history of the Constitution. ...Couldn't agree with you more. Most are done by people who are afraid to be outgunned and caught, so they use something (long gun) where they have complete control of a situation and can kill much easier. The 5-to-4 decision confirms that the Second … Greater restrictions will be placed upon gun ownership. McConnell prevented the lawful nomination and consideration to the Supreme Court. The words are there. The answer to this question depends on whether the fit between those interests and the Act is reasonable. While some people may have opinions on why the M1911 isn’t an ideal carry choice, I’m going to explain why this is the best option for me. Again with the paranoia. MA) *required* the militia to own serviceable military weapons and ammunition, and to present themselves at regular intervals for training. are not objects or phenomena that exist with the intention of killing people. Or a Mini-14 that shoots the same bullet out of the same barrel as an AR, but is a little slower to reload? High-velocity weapons like the AR-15 does much, much more damage. LeMay ran for Vice-President as George Wallace's running mate. Ghetto marksmanship? 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